Last week, we had an attorney form the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of NY Counterterrorism Unit (what a mouthful - they should come up with a catchier name) come and talk to the National Security and Law Class about his job. Obviously, his work is very confidential, to say the least, so instead of playing "21 questions", we played an entirely different game. He gave us a hypo and called on people to get their opinions. As we analyzed various possibilities and assessed advantages and disadvantages of each decision, he explained the legal and pragmatic considerations the office would have to weigh in such a situation.
I think you can guess where I'm going with that. I'll write out the hypo and will ask for your opinions (if you have a background in law enforcement or related issues, please hold off with your comments. I'm hoping to write a more "legal"-oriented post on that tomorrow, and for now just want to see how people's minds work without a special preparation).
So let's assume you're an attorney/agent working for the aforementioned unit. It is 11 am. The night before, your co-workers, who were trying to intercept an Al Qaeda suspect's lines of communications, heard someone say: "Time to make the donuts!" They came up with two phone numbers out of this conversation, both clearly NY cell phone numbers. You identify the numbers as belonging to the aforementioned Al Qaeda suspect. In the morning, you learn that a Dunkin' Donuts has been blown up somewhere in the city. So it's 11 AM, and an agent comes rushing in with the following information: A few minutes ago, he was approached by an informant, "Freddie". Freddie has a rap sheet, having served some time for drug-related offenses. This morning, Freddie was approached by an unknown individual who asked him whether Freddie wants to make some easy dough. Freddie answered affirmatively and followed the stranger to a Dunkin' Donuts, located on 42nd Street and Broadway. (assuming there is one there). The manager of the store beckoned Freddie to the basement, where Freddie saw an apparatus which to him appeared to be a bomb. The manager says: "Do you want to make some money? All you have to do is come here at 4 o'clock today. I'll give you $8000. You'll take this to a specified train station and leave it there. After I make sure that it's there, you'll get $20,000 more. One of these has already left and is on the way to Brooklyn. I don't think you'll have any problems, but just in case, here's my phone number."
And with that, the agent gives you a piece of paper with a phone number, which you immediately identify as one of the phone numbers you received the night before. It is 11 am and the clock is ticking. What do you do? And why?
I will write another post addressing this hypo later. Meanwhile - shoot! : )
Curious,
Irina
Wednesday, October 31, 2007
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10 comments:
First I'd call Jack Bauer.
Soccer Dad: LOL, but suppose you ARE Jack Bauer? ; )
If I *am* Jack Bauer then I'd first shoot Freddie in the kneecaps to make sure he tells me everything he knows. Then I'd catch the Dunkin Donuts manager and the 2 guys talking on that cell - and shoot them in the kneecaps. Then find the device, disarm it and save the day. That's what Jack Bauer does.
http://www.notrly.com/jackbauer/index.php?topthirty
OmegaGX: LOL, ok, though I have a feeling that outside the show, it wouldn't go over so well - for example, the bomb might go off as soon as you run into the store, and everyone is killed including civilians.
What about you as a federal agent?
I agree with OmegaGX, shoot everyone. Then cut off the finger of one of the corpses to check the fingerprint.
This question is really easy, I don't understand why you consider it so difficult. I thought lawyers are supposed to be smart. :-)
Soccer Dad: LOL, because, in a real life scenario, that's not what law enforcement would do... but there are so many other possibilities. Come on, give it a shot! (pun intended)
I don't know law or proper law enforcement procedure.
I guess the first thing you do is bring in Freddie.
Then you have to ascertain whether the Dunkin Donuts that reportedly blew up was the same one he visited. (You have to try and make sure that the device Freddie handled is the only one still extant, despite what he was told.)
I guess you'd have to contact the cellular carrier for those numbers and ask to be notified if either of those phones are used and (if technically possible) the location of the user.
I have no idea to which court you'd turn to get authorization for any of these actions (or if you'd need authorization.)
Then I'd shoot Freddie.
(OK. OK. that part I wasn't serious about.)
Soccer Dad: Good thinking actually. I wasn't interested in the jurisdiction issues as much as the reactions of my readers to the situation. Would you try to contact the manager over the phone or not?
No.
That's why I was talking about trying to track the cell phones. Since I'm assuming that he's rather high on the food chain, I wouldn't want to tip him off.
BTW, is the office that Andrew McCarthy worked for?
Soccer Dad: Interesting thought. I'll withhold my own comments for now.
Yes, he was, - and he was also an adjunct at Fordham. I hope he teaches again here next year - I would love to take his class.
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