Friday, March 09, 2007

The Enemy Within

While we're on the subject of national security and law, I have to mention a fascinating discussion I had earlier this week. As you know, I'm involved in the National Security and Law Society at Fordham. (Very, very new - our chapter was started last term by my classmates). Once in a while we have interesting discussions about relevant current events and issue. This week's discussion centered around a blog post, written by the founder and president of the chapter at Fordham, James Creedon. Many of you probably heard about the arrest and indictment of one Abdul Alishtari, a.k.a. "Michael Mixon". He was charged with helping to finance terrorism... although while being a donor to the GOP (!) and a founder of the Global Peace Film Festival. You should definitely take a look at the post for the details, as well as other resources. Anyway, our discussion centered around what should have been done about this individual and what would Judge Posner do in this situation.

Full disclosure: Because of other school activities, only a few people showed up to the meeting, and even fewer actively participated in the discussion. Which is the reason I'm bringing it up here - to get more feedback.

Question I: Was it a good idea to arrest Alishtari so soon? Should the FBI have waited to see whether he is involved in a bigger conspiracy and follow him around to catch the bigger fish?


IMHO, that question is not an easy one to answer. The response requires a delicate balancing test of costs and benefits. What would we be gaining by arresting Alishtari? By waiting it out?

Arrest

As someone else suggested, it's important to make an example out of Alishtari so that others wouldn't follow him. So perhaps arresting him at this point was a good idea - the noise will strike fear into the hearts, of those tempted to follow his example, and encourage them to abandon their schemes.

Arguments against:

* Judge Posner thought it was a better idea to follow him until the rest of his cohorts were found and caught.
* Arresting him so soon wouldn't stop terror financing. Instead, it would get the cohorts to lie low for a while... only to reemerge under a different guise when the controversy died down.
* We are not really gaining anything from arresting him so soon, if he's indeed part of a conspiracy. He will probably either refuse to cooperate and plead the Fifth or if he is motivated by ideological considerations rather than just the financial gain from his schemes, he'll do even more damage by deceiving the investigators and leading them AWAY from the "big fish". Even promising to reduce his sentence probably won't do much good... and it's not an easy recourse to take legally, either.

However, I thought that Judge Posner's suggestion, although it made much more sense than the immediate arrest, was not without serious flaws either.

* First of all, though it might help catch at least some of Alishtari's terrorism-funding cohorts... it's not a 100% possibility. Such a serious operation is very hard to pull off, and considering that we're missing a LOT of logistical information, it would probably end in a goose chase. I simply don't have that much faith in our large-scale internal intelligence powers.
* It's QUITE possible that Alishtari is NOT the only major Republican donor involved in the scheme, if not the terrorism-related parts of it, then at least the money laundering. And while fighting and exposing corruptions should always be our top priority, no matter which party is involved... such operations should ALSO be done very carefully and intelligently. Can you imagine the political ramifications of accusing well-known individuals... who may have been completely unaware of what was happening? Proving who knew or should have known what and unravelling a "conspiracy of silence" would definitely require a lot of QUIET UNDERCOVER investigation... but, I have a feeling, a leak in such a situation is almost inevitable, and the judgment of the press concerning sensitive information is best not be mentioned in this post. And yes, I absolutely think that such an investigation SHOULD be done... but no one's talking about it, for some reason.

Other alternatives:

* Implementing Judge Posner's idea might be easier if we recruited Alishtari to our side without making an official arrest and drawing unwanted attention to the operation. If he actively and consciously cooperated, it would resolve the issue of getting him not to suspect anything ever... which he would probably start doing at some point, and possibly ruin the entire operation.
* However, I don't really think that would work. I think Alishtari has his ideological loyalties and would probably be more deceptive than helpful. Not what we want at all.

The baiting plan could work if we used tactics implemented in other countries, which have a very successful record of catching internal terrorists:

* Use infiltrators of background very similar to Alishtari to to ensure his trust and incriminate himself and his allies.

BUT

* Such a plan is ONLY good if we have the human intelligence to pull it off. The issue here is TRUST... and I doubt we have enough agents, who are sufficiently trained and could actually pull it off. Let's face it, such a plan would only be succesful because it would require a tremendous amount of planning, sophistication, and complexity. Something's telling me that we're not at that level of intelligence development when it comes to people like Alishtari, and perhaps cooperating with countries, which do have the human intelligence, would be the only reasonable solution until we build up our own network.

Which brings me to the next question:

Who should be doing the investigation?

* FBI is mainly a law enforcement agency, encouraged to arrest... and therefore, tempted to arrest at earlier stages. It is not an intelligence-oriented organization.
* CIA's activities are by law limited to external affairs.
* NASA is not suitable either.

Judge Posner suggested to create another agency, which would NOT have law enforcement power, but which would have internal intelligence power, and would specifically deal with counterintelligence and rooting out the likes of Alishtari. Its powers would be checked by FBI and other overseeing organization. It would only be able to investigate and point out suspects, leaving the arrest decision up to FBI.

Objections

From the left:
* Too many agencies, too much bureaucracy already.
* Average Americans are already wary of all the investigations and underground government work. Yet another investigative agency would feel too much like Big Brother.

From the right: (that was me)

My concern is that the agencies we do have already are pretty bad about information sharing, despite this Administration's attempts to change that. Adding another agency would probably only complicate the matters... and increase the levels of internal competition. We should be focusing more on eliminating the interagency rivalry, which is completely counterproductive and very harmful to the country's security.

As you can guess, we didn't come to any conclusions... quite possibly because there were two few for us to present a real gamut of perspectives. This blog, however, I think has enough of an audience to provide an interesting forum for exchange of more sophisticated and detailed ideas. So... what do you guys think? I'm especially interested in hearing from readers involved in any of the above-mentioned areas, but I also look forward to hearing from everyone else! Comment away!

Challenged,
Irina

15 comments:

evolver said...

"From the left:
* Too many agencies, too much bureaucracy already."

That's a leftist objection? Up here, people on the left never saw a bureaucrat they didn't love... I would have figured an objection like that would be more Libertarian...

Irina Tsukerman said...

Evolver: LOL, what I meant was that the person who made the statement in general held a left-wing position, not that the left as a whole is against it for that reason. Although, I guess, the left here may be a little more libertarian... at least, everyone's always complaining about "those bureaucrats"! : )

Michael Brenner said...

The stakes look too low for this to be the end of the process. They may have arrested him with the intent of flipping him, only to find that he refused to cooperate. When someone refuses to cooperate, you've got to indict them and move on.

What makes you think we don't use people of similar backgrounds to infiltrate internal terrorist groups? I'm sure this is exactly what we do, because there is no other way to do undercover work.
All organized crime investigations basically work the same way. You use confidential informants to get your intel, introduce undercover agents when possible, and arrest the perps, either to bring a conclusion to the case, or to flip the perps and get intel on the next level.

I don't see any good reason for implementing Judge Posner's suggestion, because there is nothing new that it would do. And for the same reasons as you bring out here, I think the Department of Homeland Security was one of the dumbest and most wasteful ideas to come along in awhile.

Yury Puzis said...

I think that the question of "to tail or to arrest" can only be competently answered by the officers that were working on this case. It is also a completely irrelevant question as to "who could pull it off". Either FBI can do it (why not, they infiltrate organized crime, can't they?) or if they lack the specialists, don't we have CTU (counter terrorist unit) that works IN the country? Why another agency? And if CTU is lacking in stuff, it should have more of it. It's more expensive to to have them. Of course, generic counterintelligence unit is a good idea, but (here comes my shock) what, we don't have one?! How did US survived all this time? Weired.

So, IMHO discussing the raised question is pointless. Answer depends on specifics of case that we don't know about, and that we don't have the proficiency to pass judgment upon.

Yury Puzis said...

correction: "it is more expensive NOT to have them"

P M Prescott said...

Once he was arrested other than turning states evidence there's not much they can do. Anyone who he would flip on would have changed the whole operation.
I think they were getting antsy to arrest and indict anyone at all, and he was the likely choice.

Irina Tsukerman said...

Michael: Good point re Dept of Homeland Security, but I really don't think we have the level of counterintteligence when it comes specifically to counterterrorism. We do that in other areas because we have a long history of fighting organized crime and have people ready for it. It's much harder to crack sleeper cells and investigate in those directions.

Yury: Counterterrorism unit has a different focus. I think it deals specifically with development of terrorist operations, whereas this guy was indicted for financing terrorism and money laundering. I think that's not withing CTU's capabilities. CIA isn't allowed to run internal operations because of the Watergate scandal, when CIA's activities were restrict to external operations.

P.T. Prescott: That's what we were thinking, since FBI is more of a law enforcement agency and gets paid for the number of arrests.

Yury Puzis said...

My point exactly. CTU and definition of it's responsibilities need to be expanded to include capabilities of anti-financial operations. As far as infiltrations are concerned, they are not that different from regular undercover work.

Irina Tsukerman said...

Yury: But it will still take a long time to build up sufficient network. Which is why I think cooperating with other countries would behoove us.

Yury Puzis said...

Cooperation with ally countries is a no brainier. Not "until we build up the network", but on permanent basis, starting yesterday. I don't see any upside to not cooperating.

Irina Tsukerman said...

Yury: Personally, I share your convictions... but apparently, not all of the intelligence community in the U.S., or the government does. For instance, there's been some cooperation with Israel... but not nearly as much as could have been. And there have been articles in the Journal of International Security about Europe moving towards greater intelligence cooperation with the U.S., because while U.S. has better technologial capabilities, Europe has better intelligence network... but that's also fairly recent... and hasn't been quite as strong until the last few years, as I understand.

Yury Puzis said...

Which leads me to a funny definition:

Spy - Someone who cooperates on behalf of an unwilling party.

:)

Irina Tsukerman said...

Yury: LOL! That's a good one!

Judith Doolin Spikes said...

Any of you who are still following the Alishtari story, please contact me--a reporter for the local newspaper for Ardsley, where Alishtari was living when arrested. After giving the "Republican donor" connection a mad whirl for a week, the national/international media moved on (back to wall-to-coverage of rock stars' shaved heads, has-been centerfolds' ashes, etc.)--or had, until one of his associates was arrested in Spain yesterday. Anyway, we are going to follow this to its end, if it takes a dozen years. Perhaps we could share info and expertise and find out what is really going on here. Email me at rivertownsenterprise@optonline.net

Irina Tsukerman said...

Judith: Sounds good. I'll email you!